Undirbśningur fyrir Evrópuherinn

Spurning Eurobarometer um afstöšu Ķslendinga til hers er lišur ķ aš ašlaga okkur aš žeirri tilhugsun aš vera hluti af hernašarveldi Evrópusambandsins, fari svo illa aš Ķslandi verši ašili aš Evrópusambandinu. Heimild er fyrir fyrirhugušum Evrópuher ķ Lissabonsįttmįlanum.

Hernašarįętlanir Evrópusambandsins voru įsteytingarsteinn milli Ķrlands og Evrópusambandsins og ein įstęša žess aš Ķrar höfnušu Lissabonsįttmįlanum (og voru svo lįtnir kjósa aftur ,,rétt"). Tom Clonan skrifaš skżrslu um heimildir ķ sįttmįlanum til aš byggja upp her og sagši m.a. žetta

A yes vote for the Treaty would not create a permanent standing EU army – but would enhance the EU’s ability to mount flexible, tailor made and credible responses to emerging humanitarian and security crises in the future.

Evrópusambandiš sjįlft višurkennir aš heimildir til aš auka hernašarmįtt ESB séu fyrir hendi ķ Lissabonsįttmįlanum.

The Treaty foresees that Member States can make available civilian and military resources to the Union for the implementation of its Common Security and Defence operations.

Bęši Clonan og vefsetur ESB taka fram aš ESB-rķkjum er ķ sjįlfsvald sett aš taka žįtt ķ hernašaruppbyggingunni og hafa neitunarvald ķ mįlinu. Ķrum var lķka ķ sjįlfsvald sett hvort žeir tękju viš ,,björgunarstušningi" frį Evrópusambandinu vegna bankakreppunnar. Ķrar vildu ekki stušninginn en var sagt aš hann vęri žeim fyrir bestu og uršu aš ganga aš žeirri ,,rįšgjöf". Brussel įkvaš sjįlfsvald Ķra. Žannig starfar Evrópusambandiš. 


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Seiken benti į žaš į Svipunni aš bankar og alžingi nįi ekki samanlagt žvķ trausti sem žjóšin ber til ķslenska landhersins.

Elķn Siguršardóttir (IP-tala skrįš) 25.2.2011 kl. 11:28

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Allt um Ķrland og hinn meinta ESB her hér:

http://www.kannski.is/answer.php?id=81

Jón Siguršsson (IP-tala skrįš) 25.2.2011 kl. 11:40

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Leišinlegt žegar menn eru aš skrifa gegn betri vitund. Žś veist žaš alveg jafn vel og ég aš stofnsįttmįla ESB veršur ekki breytt nema meš samžykki ALLRA rķkja sambandsins. Svo til aš ķslenskir žeganar yršu aš ganga ķ her žyrfti ķslenska žjóšin fyrst aš samžykkja žaš ķ žjóšaratkvęšagreišslu.

Žaš aš ķrar hafi žegiš hjįlp er vegna žeirrar brjįlęšislegu hęgri stefnu sem žar višgekkst ķ mörg įr žangaš til allt fór į hausinn. Žaš var ķ fréttum ķ morgun aš efnahagskerfi žeirra vęri ein logandi rśst. Žess vegna höfšu žeir ekkert val žegar kom aš žvķ hvort žeir ęttu aš žyggja efnahags ašstoš eša ekki. En žetta veist žś aušvitaš allt saman. Gaman hvaš andstęšingar ašildar eru oršnir örvęntingarfullir og beita rökum sem allir eru fyrir löngu bśnir aš fatta aš standast ekki skošun. 

Valsól (IP-tala skrįš) 25.2.2011 kl. 12:35

4 Smįmynd: Pįll Vilhjįlmsson

Fjarska hljómar žś eins og atvinnustjórnmįlamašur, Valsól. Ertu žingmašur Samfylkingarinnar?

Pįll Vilhjįlmsson, 25.2.2011 kl. 13:05

5 Smįmynd: Ólafur Björn Ólafsson

Žykir žetta vera heldur klént hjį Valsól aš benda į žjóšaratkvęšagreišslur.

Žaš liggur fyrir aš viš žurfum aš fara ķ žjóšaratkvęšagreišslu um žaš hvort viš viljum eša viljum ekki ganga ķ sambandiš og ef viš samžykkjum žį erum viš aš samžykkja allt regluverkiš og višauka og hvaš žetta nś allt heitir...

Samžykkt er ķ mķnum huga aš viš veršum neydd śtķ hernašarbrölt bandalagsins, eitthvaš sem ég er į móti.

ESB = NEI TAKK!!!

kvešja

Kaldi

Ólafur Björn Ólafsson, 25.2.2011 kl. 13:31

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Meirihluti žjóša Evrópusambandsins voru meš Ķslendingum ķ hópi žeirra žjóša sem studdu innrįsina ķ Ķrak.  

Hverju olli aš žaš var ekki boriš undir Brusselkrķmsliš?  Af hverju hefur aldrei veriš nein umręša um žįtt žeirra og Evrópusambandsins "stórkostlega".  Įtti žaš ekki aš eitthvertvera "frišarbandalag"...???  Eins og sagt er į śtlensku... My ass...!!!

Gušmundur 2. Gunnarsson (IP-tala skrįš) 25.2.2011 kl. 15:30

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 Lesefni fyrir Valsól.:

 „Top Nazis Planned EU-Style Fourth Reich“

„Influential economists and industrialists were ordered to preserve Nazi power by creating European common market, documents show“

http://www.prisonplanet.com/top-nazis-planned-eu-style-fourth-reich.html

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Don’t Let EU Army Undermine NATO

Posted February 9th, 2010


At the annual Munich Security Conference, German foreign minister Guido Westerwelle has called for the creation of a European army. Following the introduction of the Lisbon Treaty, the EU thinks that it is ready for the big time, ready to assume the burdens of international leadership. Last February, they sent a six-page letter to President Obama, seeking to play a greater role on the international stage.

But the United States should be in no hurry to relin­quish its transatlantic leadership role to the Euro­pean Union. Lady Thatcher described the creation of an EU army as “a piece of monumental folly that puts our security at risk in order to satisfy political vanity.” Rather than representing a genuine attempt to increase Europe’s military contribution to vital missions, such as Afghanistan, the EU is merely seeking to advance its own political ambitions. Rather than realizing America’s need for Europe to take on more of its own security burden, a European army is more likely to drain the already limited military capabilities of member states, and draw resources away from NATO.

The Lisbon Treaty has not created a stronger Europe capable of handling global, or even regional, security. As the Haitian earthquake demonstrated, the EU will continue to stand impotent before crises, incapable of independently mounting major humanitarian or security operations.

http://blog.heritage.org/2010/02/09/america-should-not-embrace-a-european-army/

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Rise of the 4th Reich Ahead! Germany calls up European Union army; non-aggression pact with Russia sought.

by admin on February 12, 2010

http://bravenewpress.com/2010/02/12/rise-of-the-4th-reich-ahead-germany-calls-up-european-union-army-non-aggression-pact-with-russia-sought/

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Germany speaks out in favour of European army

08.02.2010 @ 09:20 CET

German foreign minister Guido Westerwelle has said Berlin supports the long term goal of creating a European army, which will bolster the EU's role as a global player.

http://euobserver.com/9/29426

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Germany Calls for EU Army
February 10, 2010 | From theTrumpet.com
Germany wants to create a common European army, German Foreign Minister Guido Westerwelle said at the Munich Security conference, February 6. “The long-term goal is the establishment of a European army under full parliamentary control.
 
 
 
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EU Dreams Of Common Army
 
 
By Stefan Nicola
UPI Germany Correspondent
Berlin (UPI) Mar 27, 2007
 
German Chancellor Angela Merkel said the European Union should aim to create a common army within the next 50 years, an ambitious and at the same time controversial plan.

"We need to get closer to a common army for Europe," Merkel last week told German daily Bild.

Proponents of an EU army cite the greater efficiency for such a multinational force: The EU's member states have some 1.9 million soldiers -- 50 percent more than the United States -- and spend roughly $250 billion a year on military means, yet the effectiveness of these armies is one-tenth of the U.S. military.

http://www.spacewar.com/reports/EU_Dreams_Of_Common_Army_999.html

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Blueprint for EU army to be agreed

A security blueprint charting a path to a European Union army will be agreed by Euro-MPs on Thursday.

By Bruno Waterfield in Brussels

Published: 3:07PM GMT 18 Feb 2009

The plan, which has influential support in Germany and France, proposes to set up a "Synchronised Armed Forces Europe", or Safe, as a first step towards a true European military force.

The move comes as France, a supporter of an EU army, prepares to rejoin Nato and to take over one of the Alliance's top military posts. General Charles de Gaulle withdrew French forces in 1966.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/4689736/Blueprint-for-EU-army-to-be-agreed.html

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Germany Calls for an EU Army

March 19, 2010

Germany has expressed a desire for the European Union to create an army under the political control of the EU, according to the nation’s Foreign Minister Guido Westerwelle.

“The long-term goal is the establishment of a European army under full parliamentary control. The European Union must live up to its political role as a global player. It must be able to manage crises independently. It must be able to respond quickly, flexibly and to take a united stand,” he said (AFP).

At the Munich Security Conference, held earlier this year, Mr. Westerwelle stated that the door for a European army was opened by the passing of a revised EU constitution draft, known as the Lisbon Treaty, and that this army would be a cohesive factor in creating a European defense policy.

The Lisbon Treaty does allow for the creation of a united army.

http://www.realtruth.org/news/100319-001-europe.html

Ętli Valsól og ašrir Evrópusambandsleigulišar lesi greinar eins og žessar? 

Gušmundur 2. Gunnarsson (IP-tala skrįš) 25.2.2011 kl. 15:50

8 Smįmynd: Halldór Björgvin Jóhannsson

Leišinlegt žegar menn eru aš skrifa gegn betri vitund. Žś veist žaš alveg jafn vel og ég aš stofnsįttmįla ESB veršur ekki breytt nema meš samžykki ALLRA rķkja sambandsins. Svo til aš ķslenskir žeganar yršu aš ganga ķ her žyrfti ķslenska žjóšin fyrst aš samžykkja žaš ķ žjóšaratkvęšagreišslu.

Ég verš eiginlega aš segja nįkvęmlega žaš sama viš žig Valsól, žaš er leišinlegt žegar menn eru aš skrifa gegn betri vitund eins og žś ert aš gera nśna. Žś veist žaš alveg jafn vel og viš hinir į žessari sķšu aš ESB lętur kjóst aftur og aftur og aftur og .... og aftur žangaš til aš mįliš er samžykkt (s.b. kosningar sem voru į Ķrlandi fyrir ekki svo alllöngu).

Einnig veistu žaš jafn vel og viš hinir į žessari sķšu aš ESB er aš vinna ķ žvķ aš fękka kosningum og fęra valdiš meira frį žegnunum yfir į rįšherra ESB, svo aš halda žvķ fram aš žaš verši aldrei her ķ ESB er mikill misskilningur.

Halldór Björgvin Jóhannsson, 25.2.2011 kl. 15:59

9 Smįmynd: Anna Sigrķšur Gušmundsdóttir

Hver eru rökin fyrir hernašaruppbyggingunni?

 Hvar er starfsvettvangurinn fyrir slķkt?

 Og hvernig virka reglurnar ķ sambandi viš aš žjóšir rįši sjįlfar hvort žęr taka žįtt? Hvers vegna bara sumir en ekki allir ķ slķka uppbyggingu, og hver eru rökin fyrir žvķ? Er einhver sem vill hernašaruppbyggingu yfirhöfuš, og ef svo er, žį hvers vegna? Vęri björgunarsveit ekki meir ķ anda frišarbandalags, eša var žetta fįbjįnaleg spurning? 

 Hvernig er žetta śtfęrt ķ raun? Hvaš ef einhver žjóš vill ekki vera meš en žarf žess samt, og hvaš kostar uppbyggingin?

Spyr sį sem ekki veit?

 Of mikiš fjįrmagn ķ heiminum fer ķ hernaš til aš verja séreignir fyrir öšrum eigna-grįšugum, og nota til žess manneskjur sem fórnarlömb ķ fremstu vķglķnu. žaš er óvefengjanleg stašreynd og allir vita sem eru komnir til vits og įra. Heimurinn er ekki bara góšur, og žaš gildir lķka um Evrópu.

 Kjósandi ķ lżšręšisrķki sem į aš įkveša sķna afstöšu žarf į vöndušum, hlutlausum og réttum upplżsingum um alla fleti samningsins aš halda, ef eitthvaš į aš vera gagn aš kosningu. En žaš ętti ekki aš vera vandamįl aš greiša śr svona spurningum meš žvķ aš vķsa ķ rétt rit sem standast lög og reglur ESB ef allt er heišarlegt ķ žessum samningum.

 M.b.kv. 

Anna Sigrķšur Gušmundsdóttir, 25.2.2011 kl. 18:11

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Hvernig ķ ósköpunum er hęgt aš ręša um Evrópuherinn į žessum nótum?

Žetta er algerlega fįrįnlegt.  Byggir į algeru žekkingarleysi eša misskilningi.

"Evrópuherinn" svokallaši mun vera samansettur śr herum sem eru nś žegar til.  "Evrópuherinn" mun vera notašur svo betur verši hęgt aš samręma ašgeršir rķkjanna og herja žeirra.  Žaš fer enginn beint ķ einhvern "Evrópuher" heldur fara menn og konur ķ heri sinna landa.  Löndin munu sķšan bjóša "Evrópuhernum" hluta af hernum sķnum.

Eins og nś ķ Lżbķu.  Hvert Evrópuland er aš gera eitthvaš.  Meš samręmdum "Evrópuher" myndu herirnir strax starfa saman žannig aš hvert land fyrir sig žarf ekki aš gera žaš sama og hin löndin.

Žaš mun aldrei verša herskylda į Ķslandi žó aš Ķslandi gangi ķ ESB.  Žaš er alger žvęla og skrifaš gegn betri vitund.

Stefįn Jślķusson (IP-tala skrįš) 26.2.2011 kl. 08:44

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